In this episode of the Girl Get Visible podcast, Akilah sits down with the powerhouse Kishshana Palmer to have a real conversation about what it truly means to step out of corporate, let go of the “busy badge,” and lead with intention.
Kishshana’s new book, Busy Is a Four Letter Word: A Guide to Achieving More by Doing Less, hits on a truth many women 40+ know too well: staying busy isn’t the goal—building a life and business you love is. Together, Akilah and Kishshana break down why unlearning hustle culture is critical for women as grow into purpose, how to rethink leadership for your next chapter, and why rest and intentionality are real power moves.
This is a must-listen for every woman ready to pause, pivot, and lead differently.
Kishshana Palmer is an author, coach, trainer, podcaster, and keynote speaker. She is the foremost expert on the future of collaborative leadership and building thriving high-performing teams. Her ethos stems from the belief that we have to build together—and it starts by looking within.
She’s an evangelist for the idea that having amazing talent is the #1 competitive advantage in business, and she focuses on ensuring that talent—at every level—can help create the most vibrant cultures of philanthropy.
Kishshana is the founder of The Rooted Collaborative, a global learning community for Black and brown women in the social sector, and the host of ManageMint Made Easy (formerly Let’s Take This Offline: The Podcast for Everyday Leaders). When she’s not starring in the “Life of My Queenager” (okay, it’s not a real show—but it could be!), she’s dropping powerful insights about leadership and life. Think Claire Huxtable with a side of Blanche Devereaux.
“You don’t have to earn rest. You have to reclaim it—and redesign what success looks like for yourself.”
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